1613 - 1824

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1613 Salem, Essex, Massachetts

John Sayer born 1613 Salem, Essex, Massachetts son William Sayer Morman International Genealogical Index.

1655 SOUTHHAMPTON, SUFFOLK, NEW YORK

Thomas A. Sayer born 1655 Southhampton, Suffolk, New York, Morman International Genealogical Index.

1658 QUEBEC

Jacques Sayer St. De La Tour born 1619

Married about 1658 Marie Magdeline Sevestre born 1638, source Quebec province census 1667 C-2474 and had two servants.

        TWO CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

Charles Sayer born 1659

Anne Francois Sayer born 1666

1680 ACADIA OR NEW FRANCE

(I)-William Sayer, English,

Married about 1680 a Marie Rishworth, In January 25, 1692 mother and two daughters are held as prisoners of war in Acadia by the savages.  Both captured daughters are reported dead by 1717.

        TWO CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

(II)-Female Sayer died before 1717

(II)-Marie Sayer born 1681 died March 28, 1717 at congregation Notre Dame, Quebec.

(II)-Marie Joseph Sayer married 1712 Montreal 6 (PQ443-314)

1683 VERGINA

John Sayers merchant departed August 1683 Leith, Scotland for Virvinia VA.

1693 MONTREAL

Sayward dite Marie Des Anges, married an English captive, living 1693 Montreal

1750

John Sayer b-1750 and retired 1805/07 to St Anne, Montreal Island, married 1st about 1778 Obemauunoqua daughter Mamongazida (Big Foot) and 2nd marriage about 1790/93 to Elizabeth McPherson.

        FIVE CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

Pierre Guillaume Sayer Metis born 1779 likely Leech Lake

John Charles Sayer Metis  born about 1780 likely Leech Lake 

Henry Sayer

Margaret Sayer

James Sayer

1759 DETROIT

Louis Suyar is listed among the 88 men at Fort Detroit.

1768 NEW BRUNSWICK

John Sayre born about 1768 New Brunswick son Esther Sayre, source Morman International Genealogical Index.

1777 NEW YORK, NEW YORK

John Sayer married September 29, 1777 New York, New York Abigail Jason, source Morman International Genealogical Index.

1776 RED LAKE (FOND DU LAC) this must be location of family, father (I)-John

(1)-John Sayer (1750-1818) of Sault Ste Marie, formally of Fond Du Lac and now a member of Compagne Generale is living at Red Lake, Minnesota in 1789,

1776 began free trading at Fond du Lac (Dukith-Superior, Minnosita)

1st Married 1781 Marie Indian.  Marie Indian could be Bwa-ne-quay (also known as Obemauuoqua as per Heather) a Dakota Sioux daughter Mamongazida or Big Foot. Others suggest married (Nancy?) Obemau-unoqua daughter of Momangazida; they had at least seven children

2nd marriage 1795 Elizabeth McPherson 

1776 John began trading 1776 and retired to Montreal 1805-07.

1780 John was at Leech Lake in 1780 as agent for Joseph Howard of Machilimackinac.

1781 Smallpox destroyed the Ojibwa around Lake Superior and John lost his trading partners.

1785 Formed General Company of Lake Superior and the South aka General Society but it failed by 1788

1788 Joined with Jean Baptiste Perrault (1761-1844), Jean Baptiste Cadot (Cadotte) Jr (1761-1818), Calelet, Joseph Reaume (1739-1796), Alex Reaume (1739-1796) and Gabriel Attina dit Laviolette

1789 Sayer, Joseph Reaume(1739-1796), Jean Baptiste Cadotte (1761-1818) and Gabriel Attina dit Laviolette are at Upper Red Lake's, Minnesota

John founded the J. Sayer & Company in 1791 and became an agent of NWC which was absorbed by NWC by 1797

He joined the Northwest Company about 1891.  Old man Sayer's sons (Pierre Guillaume (1796-1849) is the one who moved west according to Heather) moved west of Sault Ste Marie according to treaty of 1854 records.

Postings: of son?  HBC records say NWC (1818-1821) Cumberland House; HBC (1828-1832) Fort Pelly then retire to Red River 

1825-26 Lake Winnipeg
1826-27 Cass Lake
1836       Red Lake
1844       Crow Wing, Minnesota
1850       Lapointe
1860       Crow Wing

 

        ELEVEN CHILDREN ARE RECORDED: but they could be including (III)-generation kids, some suggest only 7 belong to this John 

(II)-Joan (John) Charles Sayer Metis Sr. born 1780/94 (1782) died September 23, 1838 La Pointe, Wisconsin. NWC before (1811-1820), married Marie or Marguerite Ojibwa
    (III)-Pierre Guillaume Sayer Metis b-1803
    (III)-Edward Sayer Metis (HBC (1845-1861)
    (III)-Toussaint Sayer Metis HBC (1845-1850) Lake Huron 

(II)-Julia Sayer Metis b-1786 married 1st White Crane Waubojeeg, 2nd married Adolphus Nolin

(II)-William Sayer Metis born 1786? North West married about 1840 Lusette.  May not be part of this family?

(II)-Henry Sayor Metis born 1787/96 (1784 Fond du Lac) joined NWC (1801-1821) HBC (1821-1862) married Marie Cameron and moved East of Sault Ste Marie had 5 children, both died Mississaga according to Heather.
    (III)-Edward Sayor Metis joined HBC (1845-1888) Lake Huron

(II)-Francois Louis Sayer (Sayis) Metis b-1791 married 1815 Marguerite Saulteaux (Chippewa) b-1795 most likely Minnesota.  

(II)-George Sayer Metis (ID # 1527) born 1803/1806 North West married about 1825 Marie Capilette (Caplittle) born 1805 North West daughter Joseph Caplette born 1770 Canada died 1862 and Angelique Guiboche born 1780 Metis.  Joined HBC (1831-1853) Lac La Pluie (Ontraio) aka Fort Francois
    (III)-John Sayer Metis b-1841
    (III)-George Sayer Metis b-1844
    (III)-Marie Margueritte Sayer Metis b-1850
    (III)-Isabelle Sayer Metis b-1853
    (III)-Caroline Sayer Metis b-1854
    (III)-Edward Sayer Metis b-1858
    (III)-Madeleine Sayer Metis (1862-1862)

(II)-Mary Sayers Metis (Sagonaushequay - Saganoshequa - Shagonaushequay) b-1803 married about 1820 Mackinac John H. Fairbanks Jr. (White Earth Man) (1798-1880).  Children include 
    (III)-William B, Robert Fairbanks Metis (1825-1901), married Catherine Beaulieu, 
    (III)-George Fairbanks Metis (1827-1849), 
    (III)-John Fairbanks Metis  (1830-1848), 
    (III)_Benjamin Fairbanks Metis  b-1832, 
    (III)-Albert Fairbanks Metis  b-1836, 
    (III)-Jane Fairbanks Metis  (1838-1865), 
    (III)-Albert Fairbanks Metis  b-1840, 
    (III)-James Fairbanks Metis  (1841-1869)

(2)-John Sayer (ID # 4277) born 1805 Metis and married about 1824 Marie Indian born 1808, May not be part of this family?

(2)-Anna (Nancy) Sayer born 1814 died January 12, 1842 La Pointe, Wisconsin, May not be part of this family?

(II)-Margaret Sayer not sure who mother is

(II)-James Sayer not sure who mother is 

MINNESOTA BETWEEN 1779-1805

(III)-Pierre Gauillaume Sayer (1796/1801-1849) or born about 1779 North West, Metis son (II)-John Charles Sayer (1782-1838) and Marie or Marguerite Ojibwa; joined NWC (1818-1821) HBC (1828-1832)  married about 1800, Josette (Josephite) Frobisher Metis daughter Alexander Frobisher, census 1835 Red River. ??  Some suggest Pierre b-1803 is son (I)-John Sayer(1750-1818) and  Obemau-unoqua
    (IV)-Edouard Sayer Metis b-1823
    (IV)-Louis Sayer Metis b-1826
    (IV)-Guillaume  Sayer Metis (1827-1828)
    (IV)-Isidore Sayer Metis (1832-1832)
    (IV)-Isabelle Sayer Metis b-1834
    (IV)-Josephte Sayer Metis b-1838
    (IV)-Henry Sayer Metis b-1841
    (IV)-William Sayer Metis b-1843-1843)
    (IV)-Joseph  Sayer Metis b-1843-1844)
    (IV)-Cleophas Sayer Metis b-1849
    (IV)-Rose Sayer Metis b-1853? bapt?

1783 DETROIT

Louis Sayer

Married about 1783 Janette Lebeau epouse Mayon.

        ONE CHILD IS RECORDED:

Anonyme Sayer baptised 1784 Detroit, can't read first name.

1784 WASHINGTON, MONTOMERY, VIRGINIA

John L (T) Sayer

Married August 11, 1784 (Washington), Montomery, Virginia a Susanna Crockett, source Morman family Index.  Two different records combined.

1789 PEMBINA

Peter Soyard born 1784 to 1798 (1854 treaty says he is about 70 years old) living Hennepin County and belongs to the Pembina band.

        TWO CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

Peter Soyard Jr. is issued 1854 script at La Pointe, Wisconsin

Joseph Soyest also Sayer born 1809 to 1823 living 1854 Pembina issued script at La Pointe, Wisconsin.

1798 MEIGS, OHIO

John Sayre born about 1798 Meigs, Ohio Morman International Genealogical Index.

1800 NORTH WEST

(II)-Pierre Sayer Metis born 1779 North West, son (1)-John Sayer Metis (1750-1818) and Marie Indian, source census 1835 Red River.  A probable son of John see 1789.  Likely married Marguerite Sauteau.

        THREE CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

(III)-Pierre Guillaume Sayer Metis born 1803 Ruperts Land son Marguerite Sauteaux, married 1820, churched March 2, 1835 St. Francis Xavier, Red River Josephte Frobisher census 1835-38, church records and Metis script.

(III)-John Sayer (ID # 4277) Metis born 1805  and married about 1824 Marie Indian born 1808

(III)-Henry Sayers Metis born before 1833 and living Pembina, Dakota in 1854 as per Lake Superior Metis Treaty and he claims to be decedents of Sault Ste Marie, Lake Superior Ojibwa.

1800 NORTH WEST

Jean Baptiste Sayer (ID # 4761) born 1800 North West

Married Marguerite Indian born 1790 North West.

1801 WEST

Mississaugas Chief Sawyer is baptised by the Methodist preacher Joseph Sawyer and he gave the chief his name.  Source Moon of Wintertime by John Webster Grant.

1809 NEW YORK?

William Sayer born 1788, died 1869, source Minnesota Genealogical Society

Married 1809 Mary Van Duzer born 1791 Holland died 1824.

        ONE CHILD IS RECORDED:

Henry Van Duzer Sayer born March 15, 1815 Cornwall, Orange County, New York died December 5, 1874 Wayne, DuPage County, Illinois

Married April 10, 1838 Phebe Emily Moffatt born December 13, 1813 Orange County, New York died February 1, 1910 Elgin, Kane Co Il.

1809 NORTH WEST

Joseph Sawyer (1809-1854) died March 22, 1854 St. Peter's Church, Indian Settlement, Red River source St. Peters Anglican church records.

1814 LA POINTE, WISCONSIN

Anna (Nancy) Sayer born 1814 died January 12, 1842 La Pointe, Wisconsin

1815 NWT

Francois Louis Sayis aka Sayer, b-1791, married 1815 NWT, Marguerite Saulteaux.

1815 RED RIVER

(2)-William Sayer Metis born 1786, died May 25, 1855 St. Pauls Middle Church, Red River, likely son John Sayer and Marie Bwa-ne-quay

Married  about 1840 Lusette a Metis.  This is likely the only wife of William Sayer. or

William Sayer (ID # 4274) born 1796 North West, Genealogy of First Metis Nation suggests William is born 1796 North West.  The 1786 however is more likely.

Married about 1815 (II)-Josephite Frobisher a Metis born 1795 North West Territories still living 1875 daughter (I)-Frobisher an Irishman and Indian woman, source 1875 Metis script, issued to widow August 21, 1876.  This appears to be a fabrication based on Pierre's wife?? See 1820

        FIVE CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

        CHILDREN OF (II)-Josephite Frobisher

Louis Sayer (ID # 4272) born 1826 N.W.T. living Red River 1840 census, son William Sayer Metis and Josephite Frobisher Metis married January 22, 1850 Suzanne Louise Fleury Metis born 1833 daughter Louis Fleury and Josephle Indian.  Script issued August 1876 to Suzanne Sayer and also Louis Sayer of Baie St. Paul.  Genealogy of First Metis Nation suggests Louis is the son of William born 1796.  See 1850, this suggests a major conflict between William and Pierre as the father??

Joseph Sayer (ID # 4273) Metis born 1843 St. Francis, Red River son  William Sayer Metis and Josephite Frobisher Metis.  Script issued August 21, 1876 Baie St. Paul also see 1820.  Clearly a Sayer but in two places could be easily confused with Tayer.  Genealogy of First Metis Nation suggests married (II)-Euphrasine Desjarlais born 1848 daughter (I)-Francois Desjarlais born 1800 Orkney, Scotland and (I)-Marie Otshonkan born 1810 Orkney, Scotland. Genealogy of First Metis Nation suggests Joseph is the son of William born 1796.  See 1875, this appears to be a fabrication and Joseph is the son of Pierre.

        CHILDREN OF Lusette

John Sayer (ID-4276) Metis born 1841 Red River son William and Lusette married about 1850 (III)-Mary Fidler Metis born 1835 daughter (II)-Clement Fidler Metis b-1814 and Charlotte both Metis living 1875 Popular Point.  A James Taylor verify them as Metis in 1875. Script issued October, 1876 to Mary Sayer.

Henry Sayer Metis (ID # 4276) born 1841 St. Francis Xavier, Manitoba son William Sayer Metis and Lusette metis, living Headingly, Manitoba in 1875.  Script issued September 20, 1876.  see 1820.  Genealogy of First Metis Nation suggests Henry is son of William and Josephite Frobisher, script records suggest Henry is son of Pierre see 1857.

Cleopas (Cleophar) Sayer Metis (ID # 4275) born March 1849 St. Francis, Red River living 1875 St. Charles, Headingly, Manitoba, script issued July 18, 1876 St. Charles son William Sayer born 1796 Metis and Luisette or (Susette) Frobisher Metis married about 1870 Marie Anne Caplittle born 1851 St. Charles, Red River daughter Denis Caplittle (Capilitte) and Betsy Baymner (Brenner) both listed as Metis.  Script issued July 18, 1876 Marie Sayer at St. Charles.  Listed as Sayer in script but record could be interpreted as Tayler.

1816 North West
Francois Sayer b-1816 North West had a daughter Lusate (Lusette) Sayer who married Joseph Desjarlais Metis born North West

1820 RED RIVER

(II)-Pierre Guillaume Sayer Metis (1796-1849) or born 1801-1803 (ID # 487) Ruperts Land son (I)-John Sayer (1750-1818) and Obemau-unooua other suggest  son (2)-Pierre Sayer a Metis and Marguerite Sauteaux;  NWC (1818-1821) Cumberland House,  HBC (1825-1826) New Caledonia, and HBC (1826-1827) Columbia District, Pierre Guillaume Sayer is arrested Red River by Hudson Bay Company for illegally trafficking in furs.  The trial resulted in the Metis proclaiming liberty and free trade breaking the Hudson Bay Company monopoly for all times.  Listed as Bowsman and Steersman with Hudson Bay Company 1828 to 1832.  Others suggest Pierre is the son of John Sayer Metis (1750-1818) from Sault Ste Marie formally Fond du Lac and Marie Bwaneguay a Dakota Sioux daughter Mamongazida (Big foot) still others suggest wife was Obemau-unoqua

Married about 1821, churched March 2, 1835 St. Francis Xavier, Red River Josephte Frobisher Metis born 1795-1807 Canada baptised March 2, 1835 St. Francis Xavier, Red River daughter Alexander Forbisher and Marguerite Cree.  Source Louis Riel collected writings U of A press 1985 p-341.  It would appear that Pierre adopted William's children upon his death in 1855.  See 1815.

        TWELVE CHILDREN ARE RECORDED:

(III)-Edward (Edouard) Sayer Metis born May 1823 Canada baptised December 17, 1839 St. Francis Xavier, Red River died 1871 joined HBC (1844-1857) married February 19, 1844 St Francis Xavier, Red River Magdeleine Delorme born 1827 Red River.
    (IV)-Edward Sayer Metis b-1845
    (IV)-Sampson Sayer Metis b-1847
    (IV)-Urban Sayer Metis b-1850
    (IV)-Rose Sayer Metis b-1852
    (IV)-Elise Sayer Metis b-1855

(III)-Guillaume Sayer metis born 1827 Canada baptised July 5, 1832 St. Boniface died March 27, 1872 married January 14,
1851 St. Francis Xavier, Red River Catherine Pangman listed French Canadian.

*(III)-Louis Sayer (ID # 4272) born 1826 married January 22, 1850 St. Francis Xavier Red River Suzanne Fleury 2nd marriage about 1852 Angele Galliou.

(III)-Isidore Sayer born October 4, 1832 Canada baptized October 16, 1832 and died October 14, 1832? St. Boniface.

(III)-Isabelle Sayer born July 8, 1834 St. Francis Xavier, Red River.

(III)-Marguerite Sayer born 1837 married Joseph Vermette born February 8, 1832 St. Boniface son Joseph Turpin Toutpetite Vermette and Angelique Laliberte.

(III)-Josephte Sayer born January 1, 1838 St. Francis Xavier, Red River died 1862 married February 21, 1854 St. Francis Xavier, Red River Joseph Hamelin born Augfust 1833 son Salmon Hamelin and Isabelle Vandal.

*(3)-Henry Sayer (ID # 4276) born February 20, 1841 St. Francois Xavier Red River married about 1857 Mary Brenner (Bremner) born about 1840 daughter Alexander Bremer and Elizabeth Twat. see 1815

*(3)-William Sayer born 1843 and died November 19, 1843 St. Francois Xavier, Red River.

*(3)-Joseph Sayer (ID # 4273) b-1843 baptised November 1, 1844 St. Francis Xavier, Red River married January 15, 1867 St. Francois Xavier, Red River. see 1815

*(3)-Cleopas Sayer (ID # 4275) b-1849 baptised March 3, 1850 St. Francis Xavier, Red River married Marie Caplette. (see 1815)

*(3)-Rose Sayer born April 1, 1853 St Francois Xavier, Red River.

* = likely children of William Sayer (ID # 4274) born 1786, died 1855 and Lusette and/or possibly a Frobisher sister?

1820 MACKINAW

Mary Sha-gon-aush-equay Sayer married Mackinaw, Cheboygan a John H Fairbanks born July 27, 1798 Chazy, Clinton County, New York, died April 20, 1880, White Earth, Becker County, Minnesota

Mary Sayers (Sa-gon-aush-equay) (English Women) daughter Bwa-ne-quay (Sioux Woman) and (likely daughter John Sayer of Saulte Ste Marie); married about 1820 Mackinaw a John H. Fairbanks (Chazy) born July 1798 New York, died April 20, 1880 White Earth, Minnesota son John Fairbanks Jr. (1755-1830).

1821 NORTH WEST

Angelique Sayis born 1821 daughter Louis Sayis and Marguerite married Francis Larocque

1824 RED RIVER

(2)-John Sayer (ID # 4277) born 1805 Metis and

Married about 1824 Marie Indian born 1808

        ONE CHILD IS RECORDED:

(3)-George Sayer Metis (ID # 4278) born 1825 son John Sayer (ID # 4277) born 1805 Metis and Marie Indian, living Popular Point, Manitoba in 1875.  Script issued October 2, 1876.  Married about 1846 Catherine Caplette born 1827.
 
 

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