Mr. R's Limited
Milo, Alberta
"Specializing in Mountain Performance"
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Mr. R's Limited Milo, Alberta "Specializing in Mountain Performance"
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Hi-Lite.of.the.Week (**New Information!!**)
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Tech
News April
28, 2008 The Search For Even More Power ... We are one of the few shops in Alta, I believe, that carries the new DynoPort/Crankshop single pipes for the ‘03 - ‘08 800 H.O. and R engines. You get a 5 lb. weight reduction with 4-5 more ponies and a bunch more torque. An extra bonus is stock jetting and clutching with no hood melting. What a concept! Give us a call if you find that performance is your friend. We have ‘08 single pipes in stock right now! Less Heat In The Backside ... For you spring riders that run icy trails and have hyfax and cooling problems, we have the fix. We sell the Slide Savers. They are light and convenient and easy to install. They scratch the ice and snow and spray your under carriage with snow to help cooling and runner wear. Other products are out there, but these work and they are simple to operate. They also won’t break your wallet. Give us a call. It Leaks ...New Information Check the front of your ‘04-’08 Summit 800’s motor when you get a chance. Some of the bolts holding the Y pipe manifold to the engine are backing out and you get an oily mess down the front of your engine. This is a quirk of the Rev 800 and 800 XP platform, I’m afraid and should be checked regularly. It continues to amaze me that this is still a re-occurring problem with the massive brain trust at BRP Engineering. Oils
Ain’t Oils ... There’s a lot of thought put into an oil product by the manufacturer when a formulation reaches the store shelves. Quality, flowability at low temps., composition of the engine, rpm and temperature in the combustion chambers all play a big part on what the manufacturer would like to see you pour in their engine. Oil pumps are calibrated for their oil’s viscosity and this can make a huge difference on how much oil you use or don’t use in a day. With a new 800 eingine coming in around $7000 or a crankshaft at $1300, can you really afford to play around with cheaper oils or companies that make bold predictions that they have the best product? Do they sell snowmobiles or are they cashing in on the craze? You be the judge. News From Above ... One of the first questions asked by the BRP warranty department when we have a warranty or service problem off warranty is does the customer bring his unit in for regular service? Does he buy Ski-Doo oil from you? As a dealer, we like to help the customer any way we can. However, it is hard to stand up for a guy that runs a different oil that what is recommended for his sleigh. Blue marble and Shell don’t pay the bills around here and we don’t carry them because we feel they are an inferior product. Ski-Doo now requires the consumer to have a pre-season check at the dealer to benefit their 2nd year engine warranty obligations. Bottom line guys is, if you want trouble free sleighing with or without the manufacturer, you’d better visit your dealer once in a while. We’re not that bad a people, are we? The “Hole” Fuel Issue Again ... If you don’t want a hole in the top of your piston, we need to address the whole issue of quality fuel and type of fuel for your Rotax engine again. We have seen some issues with poor fuel quality (dead fuel, methanol, ethanol based fuels) reek havic on our high compression 800 HO and R engines. At the start of each year, you need to drain your tank out and pour new fresh fuel in from suppliers such as Esso, Shell and Petro-Can. Stay away from Mohawk as it is not the fuel for your sleigh. Remember, to have a quality relationship with anything including your sleigh, it’s what you put into it. -- Dr. Phil And Now The Loose Fit ... If your ‘07 800R Summit will not pull over 8000 rpm, you may have a vacuum line either loose or fallen off your mag side rave solenoid. A simple procedure of pulling off your airbox and verifying the hose placement and tightness on the RH side of your mag rave solenoid will solve this problem. The hose may not be clamped tight enough and this will affect overall performance of the 3D Rave system. The
Truth On After Cans (Read This!) With Ski-Doo experiencing engine fluctuation and engine failures in their 800R engines last season, they felt the need to dyno test their motors with aftermarket lightweight cans to rule out as many variables as possible with concerns they had. They recognize that most western riders are using some type of lightweight aftermarket can for weight reduction on their Summits. What was interesting was that the 800R engines lost up to 6 H.P. on the dyno with one model. I am not here to name names and bash product, but I will tell you that only one model tested out of the 5 made horsepower over the stock can. That model is the MBRP, Canadian made, and the exclusive lightweight muffler sold at Mr. R’s for over 12 years now. Once again, I remind you, if we don’t sell it, we haven’t tested it or it doesn’t work. That’s our motto! If you don’t believe us, then check out the dyno sheets at our shop. We can prove it! The Final Clutch Update Is Ready To Arrive ... Ski-Doo has posted a new clutch update bulletin for the 2007 Summit 800’s. If you are having clutching concerns, then call and get in the line-up. Ski-Doo will be replacing the rollers again, the spring cup with bushing and the sliding half sheave bushing on the update. We are hopeful this will finally solve our ‘07 clutch woes. Are
Your Hands Warm? Ski-Doo has notified dealers that pre-Oct. 15th production model Summits may experience handwarmer failures on their new sleighs. Apparently there is a neoprene insulator between the aluminum bar and the heated element that could crack in cold weather and compromise the element. Canadian owners experiencing this problem can book an appointment for repair with either their U.S. or Canadian dealer once update parts arrive. A bulletin was released for the week of Dec. 10th and parts are now in stock. A Page On The Gauge ... We are reviewing a couple of questions on operation of the new gauge paks on the XP Summits. FYI on FAQ coming your way. How Do I get the water
temperature gauge show on my Everest or X package XP? Press the “Set” button on your gauge or handlebar until the fuel gauge displays. Hold for 3 seconds and engine temperature will now show. Repeat the same feature and the fuel gauge will now re-appear. I got the new Race PAK/Water
Temp/Compass module installed and can’t seem to get it to show on my gauge? Use the Mode button to select the odometer in lower display, then push and hold S button for 5 seconds to activate the lap record mode. REC will be displayed. Next, push the M or Mode button to start recording, “drive fast”, or do what you record and push the S button to stop recording. You can do this 5 times or 5 “laps” recorded. To review or play back, push S button to switch from REC to Play on screen. Now push M button to play back recorded lap. All pre-recorded data speed/rpm mode will be displayed. Repeat for each of up to 5 recorded laps / drag races, etc. This should get you started. The Great Belt Debate BRP issued a statement to their dealers over the holidays in regards to what they call “premature belt failures on 800 Summits in extreme conditions”. The Ski-Doo engineering staff is working hard as we speak to try and understand causes and probable solutions to this problem. In the mean time, we are asking our customers to keep any blown belts for warranty purposes. Ski-Doo is recommending a gearing change for the 146 and 154 models for extreme use. This should help with belt heat and is a warrantable fix. BRP has worked with their supplier to build a new wider, more durable belt that will replace the existing belt which our supplier has endeavoured to make too narrow and may in fact be the most probable reason for this whole mess to begin with. The wider belt will also solve our belt adjustment issue we are experiencing as well. Taking Heat About Heat ... One of the questions we get about belt heat is “why don’t the manufacturers put venting in the panels from the factory?”. I can tell you that my friends in engineering would love to, but have their hands tied because of government noise regulations that all manufacturers must adhere to. The bottom line is even Ski-Doo engineering must rely on after-market suppliers which are not tied by government regulations to work with the consumers wallet to solve these type of problems. We are offering solutions for a price if you’re interested. Tidying Up Some Loose Ends ... When in for your 500 km. inspection we will be doing some tweaking on the XP, attending to some adjustments and mods that need to be made. We will be improving the function of the QRS secondary adjuster as per Ski-Doo recommendation. We will revisit the chain tension technique with the customer as I feel, because of the poor location of the adjuster bolt, that this very important maintenance may not be getting done as needed. We will also be answering all your questions on the new gauge pak as there still is alot of people who don’t understand everything this great new feature can do. Info. On The New Belt ... Promising Consumers will be happy to hear the new 377 belt is living up to the hype. We have tested as well as a number of consumers in the Alta./BC corridor with great results. Ski-Doo engineering was testing in Idaho in waist deep powder a couple weeks back, getting 20-25 miles on a 166 belt and hadn’t had a failure with the new belt after 500 miles. This is with no venting or modifications. This is good news for customers waiting for some reliability. Will My Drive Axle Break? There have been alot of calls directed towards us the past few weeks about a concern for XP drive axle breakage. Ski-Doo has informed us that they are closely monitoring this problem and at this time, no bulletin has been released. They have seen a 1%-3% failure rate so far and are being pro-active towards consumers that want to “bullet proof” their axle on their own. We have recommended for BRP to pay all or a portion of this mod, and have had some success with this. Warranty Guidelines And How It Works ... If you have a warranty problem with a Ski-Doo product, please retain that product for your dealer with mileage at failure and get it to us as soon as possible. This helps us keep your warranty history accurate and helps you get reimbursed properly for your problem. We’ve had a few guys leave blown belts on the hill and then expect to be reimbursed for their loss. BRP wants proof of loss and if there is no belt, there is no claim - plain and simple guys. In addition, myself and 90% of the real snowmobiling population frown on back-country littering. Don’t give the tree huggers anymore reasons to close down any more riding areas. Nuff said! What The Heck Is Going On With My Gauge ... Gauge gliches on X package sleds in ‘08 will have a solution shortly. Expect a new software update to straighten out some of the wacky things we have seen in our new gauge package. Hang in there guys! After talking to Ski-Doo this week, it looks like our long awaited gauge software update will be happening in the summer months rather than this snow season. The repair will be a re-flash or replacement, so it seems. It looks like a fall project, boys, so hang in there a bit longer. Rear
Suspension Got You Down? It appears a fix is also in the works for our rear suspension sag problem that a few people are experiencing. ‘Doo has already said the ‘09’s will have confirmed gas pressure in the shocks and a bit wider cross shaft to stop the rear arm from binding. We are currently looking at a fix ourselves as opposed to waiting on BRP, but help is coming guys! As some of you are aware, the new 377 belt has virtually made the phone stop ringing as far as belt concerns go. However, we have alot of customers out there that have not talked to us about the 166 belt problem. We’d love to get as many of the clones sorted out before the sun sets on another sledding season. If you are still on your original belt on your ‘08 XP Summit 800, then give us a call so we can get you updated before BRP puts a deadline in the fix.
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